Machine Comparison
Citizen Miyano ABX-65THY vs Citizen Miyano ABX-80SYY
Citizen Machinery vs Citizen Machinery · CNC Lathes
Summary
The Citizen Miyano ABX-65THY and Citizen Miyano ABX-80SYY are both from Citizen Machinery's cnc lathes lineup, making this a common upgrade or lineup decision for shops already invested in the Citizen Machinery ecosystem. These machines are closely matched across most specifications, making the decision more about specific feature priorities, dealer support, and your existing shop ecosystem than raw spec advantages. Both machines are proven performers in production environments and represent solid investments for shops in the market for a cnc lathe.
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Citizen Miyano ABX-65THY | Citizen Miyano ABX-80SYY |
|---|---|---|
| Max Turning Diameter | 300 mm (11.81 in) chuck work | 350 mm (13.78 in) chuck work ▲ |
| Max Turning Length | 200 mm (7.87 in) | 250 mm (9.84 in) ▲ |
| Control | Mitsubishi M80W multi-path (Citizen Miyano) | Mitsubishi M80W dual-path (Citizen Miyano) |
| Max Bar Capacity | 65 mm (2.56 in) | 80 mm (3.15 in) ▲ |
| Main Spindle Speed | 4,500 RPM ▲ | 3,500 RPM |
| Sub Spindle Speed | 4,500 RPM ▲ | 3,500 RPM |
| Live Tool Speed | 6,000 RPM | 6,000 RPM |
| Spindle Motor | 15 kW (20 hp) | 18.5 kW (25 hp) ▲ |
| Number Of Axes | 13+ (X1, Z1, Y1, C1, X2, Z2, Y2, C2, X3, Z3 + turret indexing) ▲ | 10 (X1, Z1, Y1, C1, X2, Z2, Y2, C2 + turret indexing) |
| Turret Positions | 36 (12 per turret, all with live tooling) ▲ | 24 (12 upper + 12 lower, both with live tooling) |
| Rapid Traverse X | 20 m/min | 20 m/min |
| Rapid Traverse Z | 24 m/min | 24 m/min |
| Machine Weight | 7,000 kg (15,432 lb) | 7,500 kg (16,535 lb) ▲ |
| Price Range | $400,000 - $550,000 | $400,000 - $550,000 |
Advantages
Citizen Miyano ABX-65THY
- Superior main spindle speed at 4,500 RPM vs 3,500 RPM
- Superior sub spindle speed at 4,500 RPM vs 3,500 RPM
- Superior number of axes at 13+ (X1, Z1, Y1, C1, X2, Z2, Y2, C2, X3, Z3 + turret indexing) vs 10 (X1, Z1, Y1, C1, X2, Z2, Y2, C2 + turret indexing)
- Superior turret positions at 36 (12 per turret, all with live tooling) vs 24 (12 upper + 12 lower, both with live tooling)
Citizen Miyano ABX-80SYY
- Superior max turning diameter at 350 mm (13.78 in) chuck work vs 300 mm (11.81 in) chuck work
- Superior max turning length at 250 mm (9.84 in) vs 200 mm (7.87 in)
- Superior max bar capacity at 80 mm (3.15 in) vs 65 mm (2.56 in)
- Superior spindle motor at 18.5 kW (25 hp) vs 15 kW (20 hp)
- Superior machine weight at 7,500 kg (16,535 lb) vs 7,000 kg (15,432 lb)
Verdict
This is a close matchup. The Citizen Miyano ABX-65THY and Citizen Miyano ABX-80SYY trade advantages across different specifications, making neither a clear winner on paper alone. Your decision should come down to practical factors: which dealer is closer, which control system your operators already know, what tooling ecosystem you're invested in, and which machine's specific strengths match your highest-volume work. Get quotes on both, run test cuts with your actual parts if possible, and factor in long-term service and support costs.